Here& #39;s the discussion of #CoVidIsAairborne that happened at the University of Calgary.

https://ucalgary.yuja.com/V/Video?v=332352&node=1205653&a=385475807&autoplay=1

I">https://ucalgary.yuja.com/V/Video... am going to list out Dr. Conly& #39;s slides, with links to the studies.

First though - Dr. Conly says that viable virus has NOT been cultivated. It has. Lednicky.
Is airborne transmission an important and mitigatable aspect of the COVID-19 pandemic? – A...

Description: To date, the transmission of COVID-19 has been classified by major institutions as Contact/Droplet, which has resulted in mitigation protocols such as handwashing, masking guidelines,...

https://ucalgary.yuja.com/V/Video?v=332352&node=1205653&a=385475807&autoplay=1
While doing this, I came across this webinar by Dr. Conly:
https://www.who.int/infection-prevention/campaigns/clean-hands/webinar2_JohnC_28Apr.pdf?ua=1

If">https://www.who.int/infection... you notice some similarities to today& #39;s? It does appear very similar to this Clean Hands campaign.

Of interest is slide 6 in which he says, "It is a respiratory virus (contact droplet not
airborne transmission. His emphasis on "Not" airborne transmission.

In this most recent presentation, you& #39;ll note that he is NOW accepting of "situational" airborne transmission.

But I need to interject here.

Since we know that EVERY house, bar, restaurant, library, etc
EXCEPT those that have paid extra for increased ventilation, WILL BE that situation.

Look - either it can be transported via the air. Or it can& #39;t.

If it can be, then it& #39;s airborne.

Anyway, here are the slides
Slide 1 - Dr. Conly starts at 26:30.
Slide 2 - 27:45
Slide 3 - 28:44

Article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/18/health/coronavirus-retractions-studies.html

Study">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/1... - "Identifying airborne transmission...."
https://www.pnas.org/content/117/26/14857?fbclid=IwAR0Y1gaX7B75prQjDmiSXM4Mfl4xip2t4NQoQ7kEhb0tvqUnn_RvOPTI0_A">https://www.pnas.org/content/1...
Slide 4- 29:47
Slide 5 - 30:20
Slide 6 - 31:10
Slide 7 - 31:55
Slide 8 - 33:23

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2196-x
https://www.nature.com/articles/... href=" https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/71/10/2663/5842165
https://academic.oup.com/cid/artic... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32421494/ 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32421494/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32159775/ 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32159775/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32342252/ 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32342252/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431879/ 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33431879/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33706819/ 

Last">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33706819/... one - a little unsure, but believe it& #39;s this:
https://www.ammi.ca/Content/2021%20E-poster%20Schedule%20%26%20Presentation%20Instructions.pdf">https://www.ammi.ca/Content/2...
"P23 Congenital SARS-CoV-2 infection in a pre-term neonate with viable virus from the placenta Joseph
Vayalumkal" - Page 4 in the pdf.
Slide 9 - 34:49

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32442256/ ">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32442256/...
Slide 10 - 35:33

https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/report-of-the-who-china-joint-mission-on-coronavirus-disease-2019-(covid-19)

https://www.who.int/publicati... href=" https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/modes-of-transmission-of-virus-causing-covid-19-implications-for-ipc-precaution-recommendations

https://www.who.int/publicati... href=" https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)13168-6/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/... href=" https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0010717

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/a... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33215698/ 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33215698/... href=" https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1408636

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27940937/ 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27940937/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23994190/ 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23994190/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089148/ ">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31089148/... (I believe this is Dr. Kerkhove& #39;s)
Last source for that slide - I believe that it& #39;s:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.21.20108746v1

Now,">https://www.medrxiv.org/content/1... published: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0240205">https://journals.plos.org/plosone/a...
What do we know about SARS-CoV-2 transmission? A systematic review and meta-analysis of the...

Introduction Current SARS-CoV-2 containment measures rely on controlling viral transmission. Effective prioritization can be determined by understanding SARS-CoV-2 transmission dynamics. We conducted...

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.05.21.20108746v1
Slide 11 - 36:58

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2001316

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/... href=" https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext#%20

Could">https://www.thelancet.com/journals/... not find the last source with Zhynag.
Slide 12 - 37:13
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31142-9/fulltext

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/... href=" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7445459/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic... - Conly- co-author.

https://aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13756-020-00779-6">https://aricjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/... - Conly

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33215698/ ">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33215698/... - 2nd time cited.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/72/2/265/5825509?login=true">https://academic.oup.com/cid/artic... - most likely.

Durante-magnoni CMI 2020- not found.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6915e5.htm">https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volu...
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/infection-control-and-hospital-epidemiology/article/comprehensive-investigation-of-an-inhospital-transmission-cluster-of-a-symptomatic-sarscov2positive-physician-among-patients-and-healthcare-workers-in-germany/2444981EDEB3B38D99A251CA66A15A25

https://www.cambridge.org/core/jour... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32259546/ 

Mallot">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32259546/... r et al (Personal communication 2021 (Paging @jmcrookston
Risk of nosocomial transmission of coronavirus disease 2019: an experience in a general ward...

Our findings suggest that SARS-CoV-2 is not spread by an airborne route, and nosocomial transmissions can be prevented through vigilant basic infection control measures, including wearing of surgical...

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/infection-control-and-hospital-epidemiology/article/comprehensive-investigation-of-an-inhospital-transmission-cluster-of-a-symptomatic-sarscov2positive-physician-among-patients-and-healthcare-workers-in-germany/2444981EDEB3B38D99A251CA66A15A25
Slide 13 - 38:40

Sources are SUBMISSION PENDING.

I& #39;m sorry, but I thought this was supposed to be a scientific discussion? How are we supposed to read this? Discuss this? The personal communication cited above?

Moving on for my own sanity.
Slide 14 - 40:16

Again SUBMISSION PENDING.
Slide 15 - 41:21

https://www.ammi.ca/Content/2021%20E-poster%20Schedule%20%26%20Presentation%20Instructions.pdf

"P23">https://www.ammi.ca/Content/2... Congenital SARS-CoV-2 infection in a pre-term neonate with viable virus from the placenta Joseph
Vayalumkal" - Page 4 in the pdf.
Slide 16 - 41:56

SUBMISSION PENDING.
Slide 17 - 42:14

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33706819/ ">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33706819/...
Slide 18 - 42:38

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7523093/">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...
Slide 19- 43:11

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6043624/ ">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6043624/&...
Slide 20 - 43:33

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(20)30003-3/fulltext">https://www.thelancet.com/journals/...
Slide 21 - 43:45

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.08.21252839v1.full-text">https://www.medrxiv.org/content/1...
Slide 22 - 43:51

https://journals.lww.com/cjsportsmed/Abstract/2006/01000/Prospective_Study_of_Bacterial_and_Viral.7.aspx
(Actually">https://journals.lww.com/cjsportsm... here: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM197306282882601)

And
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6293304/ ">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6293304/&...
Slide 23 - 44:16
Slide 24 - 44:28
https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/transmission-of-sars-cov-2-implications-for-infection-prevention-precautions

https://www.who.int/news-room... href=" https://www.info.gov.hk/info/sars/pdf/amoy_e.pdf

https://www.info.gov.hk/info/sars... href=" https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341605375_What_do_we_know_about_SARS-CoV-2_transmission_A_systematic_review_and_meta-analysis_of_the_secondary_attack_rate_serial_interval_and_asymptomatic_infection

https://www.researchgate.net/publicati... href=" https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmc2004973

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/... href=" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5415578/ ">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5415578/&...
A quick note - at 44:30, Dr. Conly acknowledges that aerosol transmission is absolutely possible.

Says that it& #39;s possible within crowded settings with poor ventilation.

HEY!!!! WE ALL LIVE IN POOR VENTILATION! WE WORK IN POOR VENTILATION!!!! WE RELAX IN PLACES WITH
POOR VENTILATION!!!!

We don& #39;t all have the opportunity to work in an environment with 6 air changes per hour!

This is the problem with the @WHO& #39;s transmission committee!

Of course air sampling is difficult! You literally have huge air cleaners CLEANING the air while
trying to find something from a just-cleaned medium!

Sorry...this gets me all kinds of fired up....
Slide 25 - 44:50

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5415578/ ">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/5415578/&...
Slide 26 - 45:06

https://f1000research.com/articles/10-232 

https://f1000research.com/articles/... href=" https://f1000research.com/articles/10-233 

https://f1000research.com/articles/... href=" https://f1000research.com/articles/10-231 ">https://f1000research.com/articles/...
Slide 27 - 45:34
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