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I would really love to hear more Black Episcopalian/Roman Catholic/Methodist perspectives on aftermath of MLK within their respective denominations because the fragility of any progress made by white American Christianity is surely a tell?
(Although I can imagine what will probs happen is a bias towards trends in US Roman Catholicism potentially due to noise from numeric decline of mainline denominations outweighing anything else?)
For context, I am listening to https://audioboom.com/posts/7692162-tom-holland-on-the-great-awokening">https://audioboom.com/posts/769... and am just livetweeting in response.
So far I mostly think it& #39;d only be polite for a scholar of Classical history (with some early Medieval kudos) to quote modern historians, given how annoying it is when moderns go wild with late antiquity/Medieval history. But he& #39;s under no obligation to the Golden rule I guess 
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You know, I think the framing of current civil rights debates - even if involving non-Christians* - as yet another cycle of Christian in-fighting is actually quite helpful not least because (as with best critiques of humanism), it highlights a nature of Christian hegemony.
Oh boom, actually the reference to & #39;wokeness& #39; as neo-Pelagian heresy comes quite early, which is nice.
Mmm. More confusing than anything? a) I think the lumping of 60& #39;s & #39;wokeness& #39; and the contemporary is off and needs a bit more teasing (maybe this happens later in the podcast)
Mmm. More confusing than anything? a) I think the lumping of 60& #39;s & #39;wokeness& #39; and the contemporary is off and needs a bit more teasing (maybe this happens later in the podcast)
I say it& #39;s off because it is precisely the more individualistic and historically untethered notions of social virtue common to 60s counter cultural movements which are most critiqued by the contemporary & #39;woke& #39; (also jfc this term should never have become mainstreamed... https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="😕" title="Verwirrtes Gesicht" aria-label="Emoji: Verwirrtes Gesicht">)
b) I think I& #39;m hearing the usual association between ones reaction to tenor with a reaction to the substance (this is why I love lurking on academic discussions. I& #39;ve learned a lot about how easy it is to do this). I don& #39;t think it& #39;s for nothing that there& #39;s a type of avowedly +
+ secular classical liberal who critiques contemporary & #39;wokeness& #39; as a rehash of & #39;original sin& #39; https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="😂" title="Gesicht mit Freudentränen" aria-label="Emoji: Gesicht mit Freudentränen"> (although where everyone seems to get confused is the imputation of inherited guilt *because people don& #39;t read the original sources they& #39;re ostensibly referencing...* https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="👀" title="Augen" aria-label="Emoji: Augen">https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="👀" title="Augen" aria-label="Emoji: Augen">https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="👀" title="Augen" aria-label="Emoji: Augen">)
But anyway, not that these analogies really make any sense but I& #39;d argue the better comparison with Pelagian vs Augustinian theology would be with discursive threads *within* the & #39;wokeness& #39; than & #39;wokeness& #39; vs some external... un& #39;woke& #39;?
So, if & #39;woke& #39; refers to the online social justice phenomenon, those who are biased towards a structural formation of social oppression tend to naturally disqualify any idea that somehow ones individual efforts can & #39;save& #39; one from inflicting/internalising kyriarchal dynamics.
No & #39;woke& #39; isn& #39;t necessarily slanderous but it& #39;s really sad and kind of sickening that a term used to describe oppressed people& #39;s, well, joy at putting together their experience and research into a connective framework has been reduced to this... https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/... draggable="false" alt="😕" title="Verwirrtes Gesicht" aria-label="Emoji: Verwirrtes Gesicht">
