COVID Reflections/moving forwards @TheACPRC course
My learning points
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THREAD (long)
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Huge thank you to all the speakers and for putting on a great webinar
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Looking forward to putting into practice with @RBH_ICU_Physio & @GoPerformUK
My learning points
THREAD (long)
Huge thank you to all the speakers and for putting on a great webinar
Looking forward to putting into practice with @RBH_ICU_Physio & @GoPerformUK
Intubation & Ventilation
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- Different phenotypes = different results
- Tracheostomy in 14 days decreased ICU stay
- Physio important in ICU Mx - sputum/trache’s
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- 2nd wave showing reduced I&V patients
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- Different phenotypes = different results
- Tracheostomy in 14 days decreased ICU stay
- Physio important in ICU Mx - sputum/trache’s
- 2nd wave showing reduced I&V patients
NHF
- reduces WOB, bronchospasm, helps AWC
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- Flow is key
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- Prescribe FiO2 & Flow ranges
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- Start at 40% : 40L/ min
- Combo with proning
- AGP issues ? face mask
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- 5% wean at a time
- reduces WOB, bronchospasm, helps AWC
- Flow is key
- Prescribe FiO2 & Flow ranges
- Start at 40% : 40L/ min
- Combo with proning
- AGP issues ? face mask
- 5% wean at a time
CPAP
- early response & break behaviour can be key predictors
- Don’t rush weans
- Careful monitoring
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- MDT approach: all onboard to help patient compliance
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- Bridge to I&V in severe ARDS
- early response & break behaviour can be key predictors
- Don’t rush weans
- Careful monitoring
- MDT approach: all onboard to help patient compliance
- Bridge to I&V in severe ARDS
Conscious proning
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- encourage long durations
- Improvements in VQ
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- Reduction in regional HI lung injury
- Semi prone can still be beneficial
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- encourage long durations
- Improvements in VQ
- Reduction in regional HI lung injury
- Semi prone can still be beneficial
Cognition
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- symptoms include brain fog
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Why?
1) no clear evidence on direct affect on brain cells
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2) Impact of pandemic
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- symptoms include brain fog
Why?
1) no clear evidence on direct affect on brain cells
2) Impact of pandemic
3) Critical care - PICS, linked to longer periods of ICU delirium, 1/3 are similar impact as mod TBI, effected long after d/c
- Management - recognition, fatigue Mx, pacing, sleep
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- Management - recognition, fatigue Mx, pacing, sleep
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- OT importance in MDT
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- COVID PR ? Have cognition education session?
http://www.yourcovidrecovery.nhs.uk"> http://www.yourcovidrecovery.nhs.uk
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- COVID PR ? Have cognition education session?
http://www.yourcovidrecovery.nhs.uk"> http://www.yourcovidrecovery.nhs.uk
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Brachial Plexus Injuries 1/3 @PhysioPhil2
- Neuropathic pain is key indicator
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- Supra clavicular injuries from neck SF & shoulder depression
- Infra clavicular from GHJ Abduction
- Neuropathic pain is key indicator
- Supra clavicular injuries from neck SF & shoulder depression
- Infra clavicular from GHJ Abduction
- Mechanism from squashing & traction over 10% (fibula head area compression - drop foot - common peroneal nerve)
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- Evidence of GHJ dislocation on CXR
- Brachial plexus more common with triple threat co-morbidity (T2DM, HTN, Obesity) 2/3
- Evidence of GHJ dislocation on CXR
- Brachial plexus more common with triple threat co-morbidity (T2DM, HTN, Obesity) 2/3
- Prone positioning - use guidance for handling & GHJ alinement e.g support chest, rotate head towards abducted arm
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- Referral to PNI unit with neuropathic pain or local ortho unit
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- Referral to PNI unit with neuropathic pain or local ortho unit
Psychology
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- PICS - 50% PTSD/Anxiety/Depression (pre C-19) & 25% cognitive impairment
- -“waking to an alien world”
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- Prolonged sedation & delirium
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- PICS - 50% PTSD/Anxiety/Depression (pre C-19) & 25% cognitive impairment
- -“waking to an alien world”
- Prolonged sedation & delirium
- Media coverage
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- Fatigue & physical limitations impacting mood
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- Fear & uncertainty
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- PTSD - HPA axis -flight or flight on overdrive
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- Humanise at any opportunity - rehab consistency/focus & f/u 2/3
- Fatigue & physical limitations impacting mood
- Fear & uncertainty
- PTSD - HPA axis -flight or flight on overdrive
- Humanise at any opportunity - rehab consistency/focus & f/u 2/3
- Staff impact - PPE
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- Help! - focus on what’s within your control, self care, mini debriefs - acknowledge we are only human
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- Help! - focus on what’s within your control, self care, mini debriefs - acknowledge we are only human
UHS reflections
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- SLACK channel to share info
- Chest Physio - positioning, VHI (slow ins), ins holds, Manual Techs (inc cough)
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- Proning teams - who in the MDT?
- Tracheostomy - mixed duration
- SLACK channel to share info
- Chest Physio - positioning, VHI (slow ins), ins holds, Manual Techs (inc cough)
- Proning teams - who in the MDT?
- Tracheostomy - mixed duration
- Rehab - delayed, but stable enough. Reduced endurance & needing highest level of their current vent support
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- Delirium increased - issues with double bed space, difficult to vent & needing Midaz sedation, family video calls, about me forms, rehab diaries
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- Delirium increased - issues with double bed space, difficult to vent & needing Midaz sedation, family video calls, about me forms, rehab diaries
- Ward follow ups and virtual/phone call follow ups
- Team debriefs, team working 3/3
- Team debriefs, team working 3/3
#LongCovid
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- 10% post COVID
- Can Overlap into CFS & ME
- 80% non hospital admissions, typical age 30-50 years old & moderate - highly physically active
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- Post COVID vital main symptoms: SOB, chest tightness, fatigue
- 10% post COVID
- Can Overlap into CFS & ME
- 80% non hospital admissions, typical age 30-50 years old & moderate - highly physically active
- Post COVID vital main symptoms: SOB, chest tightness, fatigue
- Infection
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- Respiratory disease -
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- Respiratory disease -
- ME/PVFS- CNS
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- Orthostatic/ANS symptoms 3/4
- Orthostatic/ANS symptoms 3/4
- Mx: 3 P’s (pace, prioritise, plan),
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- Medical Ix to exclude other causes
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- Important to differentiate between PVF & PFVS/ME - different exercise mx @PhysiosForME 4/4
- Medical Ix to exclude other causes
- Important to differentiate between PVF & PFVS/ME - different exercise mx @PhysiosForME 4/4
Breathlessness & BPD
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- Post Covid can show abnormal pulmonary function - diffusion impairment & restrictive lung disease, CXR changes
- V/Q mismatch = breathlessness
- Acute symptoms
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- Load (WOB, compliance, sputum) vs. Capacity (altered respiratory mechanics)
- Post Covid can show abnormal pulmonary function - diffusion impairment & restrictive lung disease, CXR changes
- V/Q mismatch = breathlessness
- Acute symptoms
- Load (WOB, compliance, sputum) vs. Capacity (altered respiratory mechanics)
- Complex neurophysiology - biochemical (
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- Treatment options BPD - breathing retraining (nose breathing), fan therapy, AWC
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- Different approaches- Papworth, Bradcliffe, Buytakeo, Breath Freely
- CPET could be utilised for differential dx for SOB 3/3
- Different approaches- Papworth, Bradcliffe, Buytakeo, Breath Freely
- CPET could be utilised for differential dx for SOB 3/3
Continued in replies...
Upper airway issues / Laryngeal issues
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- Laryngeal issues common following intubation
- Symptoms: dysphoria, pain, horse voice, dysphagia, laryngeal dyspnea, stridor
- COVID
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- Laryngeal issues common following intubation
- Symptoms: dysphoria, pain, horse voice, dysphagia, laryngeal dyspnea, stridor
- COVID
- Larynx involved in multiple functions - swallow, cough, speech, breathing
- Issues can result in globus, throat clearing, ILO (difficulty breathing in), ongoing dry cough
- Ongoing dysphagia - aspiration risk & impact to meeting nutritional requirements
- Issues can result in globus, throat clearing, ILO (difficulty breathing in), ongoing dry cough
- Ongoing dysphagia - aspiration risk & impact to meeting nutritional requirements
C-19 & Critical Care MDT follow up
- patient ID - triaged to appropriate MDT members
- 6/52 post d/c clinic f/u
- Outcome measures before clinic (CORE 34, SF 36, Nijmengen, Pittsburgh Sleep index, Nottingham Extended ADL score)
- patient ID - triaged to appropriate MDT members
- 6/52 post d/c clinic f/u
- Outcome measures before clinic (CORE 34, SF 36, Nijmengen, Pittsburgh Sleep index, Nottingham Extended ADL score)
- Outcome measure in clinic- TUG, Quads/grip strength testing, voice handicap index & eating Ax tool, 6MWT to estb exercise desaturation
- MSK issues common requiring onward Rx (lateral thigh numbness, shoulder issues, back pain, big toe extension - EHL), hand issues
- MSK issues common requiring onward Rx (lateral thigh numbness, shoulder issues, back pain, big toe extension - EHL), hand issues
- Reduced exercise tolerance & issues with plateauing ? Fibrosis on lung CT
- BPD common
- BPD common