In the presentation on Batman and queerness I did at cons and academic conferences, I keep touching on how Schumacher& #39;s Batman movies harkened back to the intentional camp of the & #39;66 series, cementing Batman as a staple of queer culture

That& #39;s important to me on so many levels, especially given that Batman& #39;s theatricality, pageantry and high drama are what I& #39;ve come to love about the character. Those parts are embraced in those movies to the max, lampshaded and played with

I can& #39;t help but feel like the gritty, grounded realist aesthetic that came after was a deliberate statement in response to the angry fan backlash, and while the de-queering of live action Batman wasn& #39;t entirely successful - there are still elements of pageantry in nolanverse -

- there& #39;s a reason there was a surge in batjokes fanworks after TDK - it still feels like it TRIED a de-queering, intentional or not, and that& #39;s part of what I find alienating about those movies

("Birds of Prey" feels a bit like dipping toes back in camp tho and that& #39;s awesome)