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Some points to take into account
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As you all know as of now Mnet has yet to release the exact rules about how the views will be counted. Their statement "for the same period" is very vague. We have multiple scenarios in this case:
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As you all know as of now Mnet has yet to release the exact rules about how the views will be counted. Their statement "for the same period" is very vague. We have multiple scenarios in this case:
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1. They will only count 1st week of release for each video.
2. They will start to count from the moment all videos were released for one week, making the first week for first batch obsolete.
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1. They will only count 1st week of release for each video.
2. They will start to count from the moment all videos were released for one week, making the first week for first batch obsolete.
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3. They will count starting with the 1st week of first batch until the airing of last episode which will be done live.
4. They will count starting from the moment all videos were released until the airing of last episode.
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3. They will count starting with the 1st week of first batch until the airing of last episode which will be done live.
4. They will count starting from the moment all videos were released until the airing of last episode.
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Regardless of which one they will choose our streaming needs to be constant for the following reasons:
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Regardless of which one they will choose our streaming needs to be constant for the following reasons:
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1. If they take the 1st week of release into consideration we are clearly at a disadvantage because G*C have a lot of views in front of us and with the current drop in views/h for TBZ it looks slighlty impossible to overcome. Keep in mind this is already Tuesday.
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1. If they take the 1st week of release into consideration we are clearly at a disadvantage because G*C have a lot of views in front of us and with the current drop in views/h for TBZ it looks slighlty impossible to overcome. Keep in mind this is already Tuesday.
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We have 2 1/2 of streaming left and we are nowhere near them. Our gap is still almost 50k and we are currently going with about 1k/h. In the meantime their fandom is still streaming because they don& #39;t want to lose first place.
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We have 2 1/2 of streaming left and we are nowhere near them. Our gap is still almost 50k and we are currently going with about 1k/h. In the meantime their fandom is still streaming because they don& #39;t want to lose first place.
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2.Please keep in mind that the views will be accumulated YT+Naver for all of the full performances they will release. As of now P*g is leading in this department because they already have 2 performances released and
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2.Please keep in mind that the views will be accumulated YT+Naver for all of the full performances they will release. As of now P*g is leading in this department because they already have 2 performances released and
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if they do take the first week into consideration we have a lot of views to gain for the next performance. My concern is...if we can& #39;t surpass G*C now will we be able to surpass P*g?
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if they do take the first week into consideration we have a lot of views to gain for the next performance. My concern is...if we can& #39;t surpass G*C now will we be able to surpass P*g?
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Keep in mind that their fandom is streaming because it was a goodbye stage for one of the members. So they will not give up any soon. Soon enough that stage will surpass ours if we don& #39;t keep streaming.
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Keep in mind that their fandom is streaming because it was a goodbye stage for one of the members. So they will not give up any soon. Soon enough that stage will surpass ours if we don& #39;t keep streaming.
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3. If they are going to count the 1st week, we again are at a disadvantage because P*g already have 1 performance ahead of us and their total number of views is already at 1M. This is going to be hard to beat.
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3. If they are going to count the 1st week, we again are at a disadvantage because P*g already have 1 performance ahead of us and their total number of views is already at 1M. This is going to be hard to beat.
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4. When our perf was released we were going with about 13k/h. Now we are barely making 1-2k/h. I know the hype tones down from one day to another but this is just sad. The B seem to be excited for exactly 1 day 1/2. I think this is our magic number.
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4. When our perf was released we were going with about 13k/h. Now we are barely making 1-2k/h. I know the hype tones down from one day to another but this is just sad. The B seem to be excited for exactly 1 day 1/2. I think this is our magic number.
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We need to figure out a way to motivate The B to either keep that hype for 3-4 days or motivate more The B to stream during that 1 1/2.
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We need to figure out a way to motivate The B to either keep that hype for 3-4 days or motivate more The B to stream during that 1 1/2.
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5. No one is guilt tripping anyone. Stream when you can, for as long as you can. Not streaming doesn& #39;t make you any less of a The B but 10-15 min/day of streaming helps them a lot and it& #39;s not too much to ask considering we all go on Youtube at least 1/day.
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5. No one is guilt tripping anyone. Stream when you can, for as long as you can. Not streaming doesn& #39;t make you any less of a The B but 10-15 min/day of streaming helps them a lot and it& #39;s not too much to ask considering we all go on Youtube at least 1/day.
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6. The fact that The B already see TBZ as the winners of the whole show is tbh very disconcerting because The B are taking it easy which we definitely shouldn& #39;t. Don& #39;t take for granted the fact that they won 1st round.
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6. The fact that The B already see TBZ as the winners of the whole show is tbh very disconcerting because The B are taking it easy which we definitely shouldn& #39;t. Don& #39;t take for granted the fact that they won 1st round.
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Keep in mind that this round it was only based on the groups voting themselves. Starting with 2nd round the voting will consist of 30% the groups voting for themselves and 70% votes from selected fans from each fandom.
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Keep in mind that this round it was only based on the groups voting themselves. Starting with 2nd round the voting will consist of 30% the groups voting for themselves and 70% votes from selected fans from each fandom.
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7. Considering how cocky and how engaged in fanwars The B have been since the beginning of the show the fact that 70% of the score will be fans from each fandom voting it might be worse than we think.
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7. Considering how cocky and how engaged in fanwars The B have been since the beginning of the show the fact that 70% of the score will be fans from each fandom voting it might be worse than we think.
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We have to consider the fact that while we can be objective about the other groups, 99% of the fans will always be subjective when it comes to their faves.
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We have to consider the fact that while we can be objective about the other groups, 99% of the fans will always be subjective when it comes to their faves.
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Ofc they will be salty, ofc they will always have something to say about the winner unless the winner is their fave.
It& #39;s normal.
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Ofc they will be salty, ofc they will always have something to say about the winner unless the winner is their fave.
It& #39;s normal.
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It is true that fanwars are mostly among Ifans and the ones voting will only be Kfans but keep in mind that every stupid thing that Ifans do will always reach Kfans. They know everything we do.
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It is true that fanwars are mostly among Ifans and the ones voting will only be Kfans but keep in mind that every stupid thing that Ifans do will always reach Kfans. They know everything we do.
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My concern here is, if we keep this up, the "we are superior" attitude, it might be bad for us because the other fandoms might actually unite to sabotage us even if they like our performances more.
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My concern here is, if we keep this up, the "we are superior" attitude, it might be bad for us because the other fandoms might actually unite to sabotage us even if they like our performances more.
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We, as international fans, have absolutely NO POWER over Kfans, they can vote whatever they want and they can choose to not vote for us just to put us in our place. We need to reconsider our attitude and be more humble as this affects not only us but TBZ as well.
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We, as international fans, have absolutely NO POWER over Kfans, they can vote whatever they want and they can choose to not vote for us just to put us in our place. We need to reconsider our attitude and be more humble as this affects not only us but TBZ as well.
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I am not saying in anyway that they will do that, I love all fandoms and I know we are all playing fair, but it is a possibility that we need to take into account!
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I am not saying in anyway that they will do that, I love all fandoms and I know we are all playing fair, but it is a possibility that we need to take into account!
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8. The fact that The B do not take this competition seriously is very sad. TBZ are giving their all for this competition and are even getting injuries just to show us the things they are capable of. They want to win and they need our help.
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8. The fact that The B do not take this competition seriously is very sad. TBZ are giving their all for this competition and are even getting injuries just to show us the things they are capable of. They want to win and they need our help.
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9. Ppl saying not everything is about winning...but it is! Everything is about winning! Just because those music shows that they go on are not called "competitions" that does not mean they aren& #39;t!
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9. Ppl saying not everything is about winning...but it is! Everything is about winning! Just because those music shows that they go on are not called "competitions" that does not mean they aren& #39;t!
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All those shows are competitions, that is why they have a weekly winner! And how can you say it& #39;s not about winning if this is what TBZ want??
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All those shows are competitions, that is why they have a weekly winner! And how can you say it& #39;s not about winning if this is what TBZ want??
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10. One thing I have noticed from Reveal comeback to this show: we have become more united, we are starting to learn how to stream properly and people are becoming more interested in supporting TBZ properly. But it& #39;s still not enough to give them what they deserve
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10. One thing I have noticed from Reveal comeback to this show: we have become more united, we are starting to learn how to stream properly and people are becoming more interested in supporting TBZ properly. But it& #39;s still not enough to give them what they deserve
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