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This is an absolutely brilliant thread to prove the traditional Sunni position that seeking assistance through unseen beings is no more ‘shirk’ than seeking help through present humans. NEITHER any have power. No human, no angel, no jinn, seen or unseen: Power is ONLY with Allah. https://twitter.com/ibnekhan01/status/1344806649811382274
To make a DISTINCTION in the assistance you might receive from a seen being compared to an unseen being is actually closer to SHIRK. Since this entails that you think the one in front of you, who is present, has some kind of intrinsic ability/power over the one that is not.
As Imam M. Ash-Shatti Al-Hanbali [d. 1929] said: “There is no difference between the state of life or death. Those who make a difference are actually much closer to idolatry... because their position is that the living have some sort of influence or intrinsic effect on things.”
![As Imam M. Ash-Shatti Al-Hanbali [d. 1929] said: “There is no difference between the state of life or death. Those who make a difference are actually much closer to idolatry... because their position is that the living have some sort of influence or intrinsic effect on things.”](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EqnAvYKXcAE1ECg.jpg "As Imam M. Ash-Shatti Al-Hanbali [d. 1929] said: “There is no difference between the state of life or death. Those who make a difference are actually much closer to idolatry... because their position is that the living have some sort of influence or intrinsic effect on things.”")
This is, in fact, true Tawhīd, as it demonstrates that you see no power in the one that is present before you.
Alive/passed away, human, jinn, angel, seen/unseen - it’s all the same. They are equally powerless.
All Power is with Allah.
Alive/passed away, human, jinn, angel, seen/unseen - it’s all the same. They are equally powerless.
All Power is with Allah.
No one is making anyone act on these narrations, but do not call it shirk/bida when it is so deeply rooted in Sunni Islam & none other than Imam Ahmad b. Hanbal himself acted on it.
The modern backlash against this is actually what is a bida’ and, as explained, closer to shirk.
The modern backlash against this is actually what is a bida’ and, as explained, closer to shirk.
